FRIDAY, APRIL 17, 2009
GEREJA ADVENT GEGER
Sayangnya tak satu pun pendeta atau majelis Advent di sana yang berani berdialog dengan para "penggugat" ini. Para petinggi gereja hanya bisa marah sambil gencar menyebarkan fitnah bahwa orang-orang penolak Trinitas tersebut sebagai penyakit sampar, kudis, iblis, dsbnya.
Fakta dan data akurat yang ada dalam gereja Advent sendiri jelas-jelas salah satunya mengatakan bahwa Trinitas adalah ajaran yang salah yang diilhami oleh setan (Warta Gereja Advent No.12/Th LXVII/halaman 9). Melalui buku Adventism in America bahkan secara gamblang bisa diketahui oleh siapa saja yang membacanya bahwa telah terjadi perubahan doktrin yang "fundamental" dalam sejarah gereja Advent, yaitu dari awalnya Advent bukanlah penganut Trinitas kemudian menjadi menganut Trinitas (Trinitas ala Roma Katholik).
Conference clasps hands with the Papacy
the distance between itself and the Papacy." ST vol 3, 99
"Beach's encounter with the Roman Pontiff came as a member
of the Christian World Communions, and following a special
luncheon at the Vatican." Review Nov. 8, 2001 [Note: The
Seventh-day Adventist church is the member, not Beach
individually. Beach was representing the Adventist church.]
“Adventist Church Cannot be Treated as a Sect,” Warsaw, Poland ... [ANN Feb 15, 2000]“The Seventh-day Adventist Church cannot be treated either as a ‘new religious movement,’ or as a sect,” declares a joint statement drawn by the Roman Catholic Church and the Adventist Church in Poland.Recognizing each other’s autonomy and independence, the document was issued following 15 years of dialogue aimed at better understanding of the teachings and practice of the Catholic and the Adventist Churches, as well as improving relationswithout compromising each other’s identity.The document cites the fact that “relations between Catholics and Adventists have not been best in the past.” The statement was signed by representatives of the Churches, including Pastor Wladyslaw Polok, president of the Adventist Church in Poland, and Archbishop Alfons Nossol, chairman of the Polish Episcopate’s Commission for Ecumenical Affairs.“With regret we recognize cases when the different religious and civic circles have denied the ecclesiastical status of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, even refering to it as a ‘sect.’ Such an approach is unacceptable and, we believe, it is highly detrimental for the mutual relations,” the document states.“This document affirms religious liberty. We are regarding it as an important development not only for our Church in Poland. Religious minorities are too often regarded as less than what they are,” said Pastor Polok.The statement recognizes that though the Churches can refer to similarities, they also see difference between each other’s “doctrine, practice and church policies.”However, both sides affirm a need to cultivate respect for each other and learn to understand each other. The dialogue was “conducted on the basis of partnership, care to uphold a full identity of both sides, as well as their autonomy and independence, in the spirit of mutual respect and Christian love, and in recognition of the ideals of tolerance and religious freedom.”“This is an important turn of events for our Church,” says Prof. Zachariasz Lyko, who for many years was responsible for the Polish Adventist Church’s public affairs. “This development is not a result of criticism, public attacks or confrontation, but Christian kindness toward each other and respect for dignity of a human person.”“Many of us can recall how we have been labeled with different names. We have been misunderstood and often ridiculed. As for us, we wanted to sit down together and recognize that Christian love requires a different kind of relation in the society we are a part of. As Seventh-day Adventists we seek to take a positive approach to other faiths. We have stated this publicly and this document affirms our attiutude [sic],” he added.The document does not deal with doctrinal and theological issues. During the years of meetings, both sides presented their theological views and doctrinal positions in the interest of better understanding between both confessions. “Our Church recognizes that such dialogue cannot be a dialogue of compromise, but one of cooperative spirit and common understanding,” Lyko explained. “We are doing nothing different except what the early pioneers of our Church supported and advocated. It is always better to engage in a respectful conversation than in a confrontation that often prevents achieving desired changes,” he said.Lyko commented that “as a Church, our side was not interested in compromising any of our fundamental beliefs.”“Over the years, however, as the exchange of information between us took place, we noted many confessional similarities but also differences. The Catholic side recognizes in the document the Christocentric character of our beliefs, and especially our belief in the Trinity, as well as ecclesiological identity of the Church, a status affirmed by an act of the Polish Parliament. On our part, we spoke of a need to change attitudes toward our denomination and recognized the openness of the Catholic Church, especially in recent times, toward the Bible,” Lyko explained.How can the Adventist church identify the papacy as the beast if it is partners with them? The conference is not spreading the three angel's messages to the world, as they would rather follow the papacy over their duty to God.
THE POPE INVITES CLOSE FRIENDS TO ASSISI
General Conference of SDA's on short list to meet pope
St. Louis television broadcasts the SDA church calling the pope, "your holiness(!)" then meeting the "man of sin" and presenting him with a gift.
Please go to the WCC web site which lists the members of the Christian World Communions, including the conference: www.wcc-coe.org/wcc/links/church.html
There are several items on this gold medal which are designed to please the pope. 1. Christ is in a Catholic stance, like the Vatican painting by Francis de Assisi, and idols. 2. He is standing on earth like Satan will when personating Christ. 3. There is a cloud with lightning bolts extending from it, just as mystery religions and the medieval papacy used. It was a symbol of Satan in the mysteries. 4. There are eight angels. Eight is the symbol of the sun day. 5. The Maltese cross is a Vatican symbol. 6. THE FOURTH COMMANDMENT IS CHANGED TO READ THE SAME WAY THE PAPACY ATTEMPTED TO CHANGE IT!
"When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near." --5T 451 (1885)
Dick Duerksen, director of creative ministries in the Columbia Union, was mocking those who were saying, "The pope's stand on abortion, his book lifting up the gift of God's grace, his words praising family values and all his travels are but a smokescreen behind which he is building a world-wide power base. He will be taking control of the world any day." Columbia Union Visitor
In the announcement of a new "Signs of the Times", the new editor, Marvin Moore, appears to be saying that the beast will not be identified: "These articles will avoid attacking people and churches that disagree with us, including the Catholics. We win by drawing, not by pushing people away....Signs keeps the three angel's messages front and center, but speaks the language of the 1990's, not the 1890's." Mr. Moore, like the conference, termed the identification of Babylon and the beast as "attacking".
Notice these statements in the conference publication Review, May 2, 1991, Roy Adams "The Eucharist, turning the communion bread into the literal body of Christ, fits into the circle of the three angels' messages." Review, September 19, 1993, Miriam Widmer "We praised the pope for sounding like an Adventist or protestant preacher, and suggested God was using this pope to bring the gospel to the Catholics."
At the 1990, General Conference Session in Indianapolis, a Catholic priest spoke and prayed from the pulpit. The conference communications director told a local newspaper that we no longer believe what we did a hundred years ago concerning comments in the Great Controversy about the papacy. A condensation of "The Great Controversy" was handed out in Indianapolis. "Shirley Burton, a spokesperson for the denomination, told the Indianapolis Star Daily newspaper the tract was 'trash.'...The main body of the Church has moved away from an anti-Catholic position. The new position of co-operation with the Catholic Church was exemplified by the invitation from the Seventh-day Adventists to the Vatican to send an official observer to the conference." Arkansas Catholic 7-29-90. The following are further comments found in The Indianapolis Star, July 14, 1990, "Though Adventist officials conceded the history of the denomination has an anti-Catholic bent, they said the modern church is trying to move from that stance. 'They (the dissidents) want us to be like we were 100 years ago.' said Herbert Ford, news director for the 6.2 million-member church. 'But, the church has to move not away from the eternal principles of God, but things do have to change. 'These people are a thorn in the flesh, but the church tolerates them. United States in Prophecy [Great Controversy] which was sponsored by Adventist Layworkers Affiliate of Tennessee, calls Catholicism a pagan religion and refers to the pope as a beast. Adventists who want to cling to the church's historic anti-Catholic beliefs represent only about 1,000 in the North American division of 750,000 members, Ford said."
[Some Adventists believe the conference will repent eventually, so we should continue to support their apostasy until that happens. If the conference is to repent, then why does the Bible say in Ezekiel 9 there will be a slaughter of the leaders and laity where almost every Adventist will soon be killed by God's destroying angel after the close of probation? The slaughter is brought about because of the abominations of Israel or Adventists as noted in Ezekiel chapter eight. Mrs. White tells us the slaughter of Ezekiel chapter nine will be a literal slaughter of professed Adventists. Ezekiel sees the slaughter beginning with the leadership, and he frightfully watches the destruction and asks the destroying angel if all Israel or Adventists will be killed.]
"The world must not be introduced into the church, and married to the church, forming a bond of unity. Through this means the church will become indeed corrupt, and as stated in Revelation, 'a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.' Through association with the world our institutions will become unsubstantial, unreliable; because these worldly elements, introduced and placed in positions of trust, are looked up to as teachers to be respected in their educating, directing, and official position, and they are sure to be worked upon by the spirit and power of darkness; so that the demarcation becomes not distinguished between him that serveth God and him that serveth Him not. In the balances of the sanctuary the Seventh-day Adventist church is to be weighed. She will be judged by the privileges and advantages that she has had. If her spiritual experience does not correspond to the advantages that Christ, at infinite cost, has bestowed on her, If the blessings conferred have not qualified her to do the work entrusted to her, on her will be pronounced the sentence: 'found wanting.' By the light bestowed, the opportunities given, will she be judged." 8T247
1901 "It is working upon wrong principles that has brought the cause of God into its present embarrassment. The people have lost confidence in those who have the management of the work. Yet we hear that the voice of the Conference is the Voice of God. Every time I have heard this, I have thought that it was almost blasphemy....We have reached the time when the work cannot advance while wrong principles are cherished." Man. 37, 1901